tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217012316587200736.post4121918253261017863..comments2024-03-12T21:24:23.240-04:00Comments on Emily Bryan Romance: Barbara Monajem's Notorious ElizaEmilyBryanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03542349086762747179noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217012316587200736.post-56943621437358099102010-01-22T09:46:05.020-05:002010-01-22T09:46:05.020-05:00Linsey - Now, that's an idea. Wouldn't it ...Linsey - Now, that's an idea. Wouldn't it be fun to write a historical where the hero writes a treatise about how women should behave? (I bet it's already been done, though.)<br /><br />Maxine - I think it's hard for modern women NOT to write heroines that are ahead of their times, LOL. I have to try really hard sometimes to put myself in a mindset that's somewhere between then and now.<br /><br />librarypat - Thanks very much. I wonder what a woman would have written about her expectations of a man?Barbara Monajemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06740868750916582900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217012316587200736.post-83290797507730724162010-01-22T00:38:39.603-05:002010-01-22T00:38:39.603-05:00Sounds like an interesting story. As you have nic...Sounds like an interesting story. As you have nicely pointed out, things haven't changed all that much. None of Markham's expectations were unreasonable and most were pretty good advice. <br />Good luck with your release.librarypatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217012316587200736.post-63833122730088525332010-01-22T00:03:05.804-05:002010-01-22T00:03:05.804-05:00I love heroines who are women ahead of their time....I love heroines who are women ahead of their time.<br /><br />I know I'll enjoy Eliza.<br /><br />Maxine Thompson<br />Author Hostage of Lies<br />Voted a Best Book of 2009<br />EDC CreationsMaxine Thompsonhttp://www.maxinethompsonbooks.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217012316587200736.post-49799039178071446102010-01-21T23:15:57.097-05:002010-01-21T23:15:57.097-05:00Very insightful post, Barbara. You're right. I...Very insightful post, Barbara. You're right. It's tough to write a good heroine. She has to measure up to most of those standards and still be believable and realistic.<br /><br />I don't think people expect so much of real life women nowadays. We're freer to just be human. :) I prefer a heroine with some attitude. Someone who might give Markham a run for his money.<br /><br />LinseyLinsey Lanierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00715385349179663367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217012316587200736.post-66422672185886736252010-01-21T22:31:59.986-05:002010-01-21T22:31:59.986-05:00Most excellent blog, Barbara. I think I'd like...Most excellent blog, Barbara. I think I'd like Eliza, too. I like women who express their opinions and are brave. I don't heroines who won't listen to professional cops and put the hero in danger by following them when told to stay put.Mary Marvellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12015719890476028848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217012316587200736.post-75039056730688548902010-01-21T21:01:22.153-05:002010-01-21T21:01:22.153-05:00I find it fascinating that when you get right down...I find it fascinating that when you get right down to it, women haven't changed that much over the years. They are just more outspoken and less secretive about it now. Your book sounds great and I will definitely put it on my wish list.Linda Hendersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06496464041656744569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217012316587200736.post-13813180904717230692010-01-21T18:24:39.071-05:002010-01-21T18:24:39.071-05:00Janet, you're so right. I want my heroines to ...Janet, you're so right. I want my heroines to have plenty of guts -- whether they're the ones I read or the ones I write. Vicarious risks have no consequences! I have to remind myself not to write heroines who react and behave like me, LOL. They have to do much, much better.Barbara Monajemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06740868750916582900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217012316587200736.post-39575772366105837772010-01-21T17:53:37.891-05:002010-01-21T17:53:37.891-05:00Hi barbara and all.
I think a lot of readers want ...Hi barbara and all.<br />I think a lot of readers want a heroine to be bolder than they themselves are. taking risks, they would not take. Reading about scandal is different than being involved in one. We can get lost in a story and of course be the heroine without the after effects. Looks like your story found the right mix.Janet Kay Gallaghernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217012316587200736.post-13402275433270195692010-01-21T16:43:07.269-05:002010-01-21T16:43:07.269-05:00Heh. Research is a wonderful ride. You just never ...Heh. Research is a wonderful ride. You just never know what gems you'll uncover... I first found that quote from Markham in a book about food, which was a wonderful trip in itself.<br /><br />Women are great not just at adapting, but at changing what we adapt to.Barbara Monajemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06740868750916582900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217012316587200736.post-81407468195926658792010-01-21T16:27:37.103-05:002010-01-21T16:27:37.103-05:00Love this topic, Barbara. I'm finding there...Love this topic, Barbara. I'm finding there's not a whole heck of a lot of difference in women's attitudes from one era to another. I think the secret women share in abundance is the ability adapt to whatever situation comes their way. At least, that's true of the heroines I read and root for.<br /><br />Research takes us in so many fascinating directions, doesn't it?Joyce Hendersonhttp://www.joycehendersonauthor.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217012316587200736.post-37801984255719702232010-01-21T16:22:33.827-05:002010-01-21T16:22:33.827-05:00Saranna - I love your definition of a heroine. My ...Saranna - I love your definition of a heroine. My favorite heroines are always the kind of people I would like to know. And they're usually pretty snarky!<br /><br />Congrats on the contest win and contract. Woo-hoo!Barbara Monajemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06740868750916582900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217012316587200736.post-91471640005586060452010-01-21T16:04:46.888-05:002010-01-21T16:04:46.888-05:00Eliza sounds like a winner!
The sketch of my ide...Eliza sounds like a winner! <br /><br />The sketch of my ideal heroine is a bit more... pliable. She's a woman that I would be friends with and that covers a lot of ground. <br /><br />Of course, that's not usually the kind that would hold her tongue, but it's been known to happen. *g*Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17774647553760700746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217012316587200736.post-55173553162354196322010-01-21T15:54:21.452-05:002010-01-21T15:54:21.452-05:00Christie - How sweet of you to drop by. I love you...Christie - How sweet of you to drop by. I love your books. In fact, my daughter and I have read all three of the Divorced, Desperate and... series and are now planning to buy your others.Barbara Monajemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06740868750916582900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217012316587200736.post-86628498661159610772010-01-21T15:40:31.273-05:002010-01-21T15:40:31.273-05:00Barbara,
Your book sounds wonderful. I love spun...Barbara,<br /><br />Your book sounds wonderful. I love spunky heroines. They just go so well with macho heroes.<br /><br />CCChristie Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13838947086349600665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217012316587200736.post-23189143812335501142010-01-21T15:12:49.260-05:002010-01-21T15:12:49.260-05:00Toni - LOL, me, too re the outspoken historical la...Toni - LOL, me, too re the outspoken historical ladies.Barbara Monajemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06740868750916582900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217012316587200736.post-55102059303346328172010-01-21T15:06:56.135-05:002010-01-21T15:06:56.135-05:00Most heroines in romance today are created along t...Most heroines in romance today are created along these same lines, though some may act imprudently in some cases. I especially love the regency ones where the woman are so outspoken and can match their men word-for-word in verbal duels.Toni V.S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08052890346125029399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217012316587200736.post-17481630709100583412010-01-21T15:06:47.172-05:002010-01-21T15:06:47.172-05:00Anita3 - Thanks for dropping by! I'm glad the ...Anita3 - Thanks for dropping by! I'm glad the story sounds appealing to you.Barbara Monajemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06740868750916582900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217012316587200736.post-61930205045261522572010-01-21T15:06:04.182-05:002010-01-21T15:06:04.182-05:00Emily - Your interpretation makes a lot of sense. ...Emily - Your interpretation makes a lot of sense. The ideal woman shouldn't be wishy-washy and confused! But being too settled in one's beliefs and understanding can have its disadvantages -- such as rigidity -- so I wonder whether or not that's really a good quality. Hmm... I guess it all depends. For example, being rigid in her prejudices, no; being firm in her support of tolerance, yes. <br /><br />I guess you can tell I find this fascinating, LOL.Barbara Monajemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06740868750916582900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217012316587200736.post-3241870912752244692010-01-21T14:46:42.578-05:002010-01-21T14:46:42.578-05:00I really enjoyed this. I plan to run out and get ...I really enjoyed this. I plan to run out and get the book.<br />Anita<br />MannAnita3https://www.blogger.com/profile/14801529138439023580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217012316587200736.post-48158439424117786872010-01-21T12:58:43.211-05:002010-01-21T12:58:43.211-05:00Barbara--I think the comfortable in her counsels m...Barbara--I think the comfortable in her counsels means she knows what she believes and why. Her world view is established and she's ok with that.EmilyBryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03542349086762747179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217012316587200736.post-19335236170882243222010-01-21T12:09:59.254-05:002010-01-21T12:09:59.254-05:00Thanks, Mona. What you say is particularly true of...Thanks, Mona. What you say is particularly true of Eliza. Women of the lower classes frequently had to work, whether in a family business, as servants, or by taking in washing or sewing, but a woman of the upper classes rarely chose a career as such. She would do so only if forced into it by circumstances -- so, for example, some women became governesses or paid companions. Eliza started painting courtesans as a paying occupation before her first husband died (she had an unusual husband who encouraged her!).Barbara Monajemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06740868750916582900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217012316587200736.post-86317717409437632982010-01-21T10:42:43.453-05:002010-01-21T10:42:43.453-05:00Hurray for Eliza. She's a heroine I know I wil...Hurray for Eliza. She's a heroine I know I will enjot immensely. I don't know what Markham thinks about career women, but most of our modern heroines hold a job. This is one thing that didn't exist in the past. Your Eliza is very modern in that sense.Mona Riskhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14923883333893160794noreply@blogger.com